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3.1 changes for druids so far - Page 3 - Clan YaWA - You and Whose Army

3.1 changes for druids so far

Druid class discussion.

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Post#31 » Mon Mar 16, 2009 2:36 pm

Building on the statement above regarding Celestial Focus, according to the latest SimCraft data for 3.1 (), there is now less than a 1.5% difference between Wrath Eclipse and Starfire Eclipse if you are optimizing your cast cycle for one or the other. This is good news for Druids who like switching things up, or more significantly, who like me find themselves losing DPS due to accidentally proccing Wrath Eclipse.

The not so good news is that Wrath spam is demonstrably less mana efficient, resulting in a higher probability of going OOM in a long fight. This is because of two things: Wrath has a lower DPM than Starfire, and you will need to refresh Moonfire more often because you aren't extending the duration with Starfire.

The really bad news is that SimCraft places us well over 10% behind Surv/Marks Hunters, 15+% behind some Warlock builds and HaT rogues, and a whopping 20% behind Ferals. I can only hope that the data is skewed or the numbers for those classes come down a bit before 3.1 launches.


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Post#32 » Mon Mar 16, 2009 2:52 pm

hmmm this sounds like itemization scaling may have a role in this lealla.... maybe i shouldn't be the only one expressing concern about spirit



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Post#33 » Mon Mar 16, 2009 4:22 pm

Spirit doesn't make up 20% of the difference between Balance and Feral, nor does it explain why 0/40/31 Warlocks are in the #4 position. Spirit as a stat is actually pretty good for Balance Druids, especially if you diverge from the traditional build to drop a point into Intensity.

Further, only the Arcane mage in the sample data set is heavily geared with Spirit; the Fire and Frost builds have minimal amounts. The Fire build that hits 6K DPS has more Intellect, Hit, and Haste than the Balance build, albeit slightly less crit.



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Post#36 » Fri Mar 27, 2009 8:33 am



The core point spend is pretty much self-evident; there end up being exactly two points left over to spend on mana regeneration talents. Of the talents available, Omen of Clarity is obviously #1, while Intensity continues to be superior to Dreamstate with any significant amount of Spirit.



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