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3.1 changes for druids so far

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That's how I'd spec, and I think that's how Mel would too. There's a couple reasons imo for not specing for revitalize. The main one being that you're a healer, you're not a buff bot. You need to be able to heal as efficiently as possible so that you can keep healing for as long as it's required of you. It is not your job to manage everyone elses mana/rage/rp whatever, it's theirs. Your job is to keep them alive.

Lealla I'm sure you've looked at the WWS reports and seen Mel's breakdown. With the amount of Nourishes that she casts why the fuck would you optimize your build for anything but Nourish?

Imp Tranquility - terrible fucking talent. The spell costs 70% of your base mana. 70%!!!! Making it an Oh Shit button and nothing more. If you're relying on Tranquility to keep people alive you're healing wrong - end of story.

Naturalist and anything else HT realated are what I consider to be pre-nourish talents. They're nice to have, combined with the glyph, till you get nourish, but once you have nourish they're shit.

Tranquil Spirit may not be worth the points, but I disagree. Look at the real world application of Nourish. TS+Moonglow is a 19% mana reduction of what I would call your main heal these days. It's what you cast to keep people alive, and it's your one main heal not affected by Tree of Life. You maintain your hots and then you nourish. It would be like a Shadow Priest not speccing for a reduction on Mind Flay.

Not to mention with the change in 3.0.8 to make WG trigger the added effect of nourish it becomes one of your best spells for topping off a raid quickly. WG then Nourish to top people off.

To top it off, Nature's Bounty aka Imp Regrowth v2 now affects Nourish making it even more of a vital component of druid healing.

With the build I've listed above your Nourish has a 32% base crit chance. 4% from Nature's Majesty, 25% from Nature's Bounty, 3% from Natural Perfection. This means that even before gear your Living Seed and Nature's Grace uptime is insane.

The speak for themselves. Nourish makes up ~40% of Mel's healing. Why would you optimize your build for anything other than your main heal?

So yeah, I think revitalize is crap. The only way I would even consider it is if it proc'd off Nourish or LB.
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Post#22 » Mon Mar 02, 2009 11:51 pm

That is Loatheb you're thinking of. There are no other anti-healing fights in current content.

Blizz does not want rolling LBs to have such a high healing to mana ratio for raiding. That's pretty simple to understand. When they were the most mana-efficient heal by a huge amount, there was never any real choice: just keep up a full stack on each tank and work the rest of your rotation around that 7 (10 with talents and glyphs) sec refresh.

Now that's going to have a mana penalty relative to allowing the stack to bloom. Is it a good change? I don't really know - I'll probably have a chance to find out when dual specs hit and I set up a Resto spec. Is it going to fundamentally alter the mechanics of the Druid class? I highly doubt it - when I was healing for our first Naxx25 runs, I used all six heals at various times, not just Lifebloom. It is a valuable tool in the arsenal but far from the only one.



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There is more to life than pew pew you know, like staying out of the fire so you can live to pew pew another day

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No.

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There is more to life than pew pew you know, like staying out of the fire so you can live to pew pew another day

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