Vash keeps raping me.

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Vash keeps raping me.

Post by Ahlyzabeth » Wed Jun 25, 2008 4:25 am

So.... I've been having issues staying alive. Various different reasons....

My fade isnt up, the striders fear the fuck of of me into the middle and an elite cleaves my face off.

I do pay attention to my surroundings for the most part,

Is there a better place to stand, should I be moving around lots more than I do...

Any advice would be super helpsful!
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Post by Gnomerman » Wed Jun 25, 2008 10:39 am

dear lyz,

there are 3 things that you can do to improve your survival in the vashj fight.

1, only use your fade if it is 100% necessary. That will save your fade cooldown. If you are using xperl and omen it should flash red when you are targeted. You should always be aware of where the nearest tank is when the elietes are about to spawn. if it is coming from the area you are near go give hyrion or heart, or whoever is tanking a big hug if you think it might be chasing you.

2. Always be aware of where the strider is. When the strider is about to pop try to figure out where its coming from. if you see it
stay away from it. When its being kitied, move a little bit closer to the middle ( just watch out for the eliets) and throw your dots on it if you have time while healing. That is the most difficult thing is to be aware of the strider, and move away if necessary.

I realize its not the easiest thing. but being pre-emtive about when the striders and naga are coming, and lookiing out for them is the best way to avoid them. I realize you have to heal while doing this, so its a lot to do, but with practice, and knowledge of how to go about avoiding them, you will get it

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Post by Lealla » Wed Jun 25, 2008 12:24 pm

Hover around Pax for an attempt or two and watch how he handles it. You want to stand close enough to the middle that the Strider won't path over you (if it's being kited properly) and know when to move if it gets too close.

As for the Elites, know when one is due and if you see it coming, run the hell away. I'd recommend keeping your camera zoomed out and pointed outward, so you can watch the stairs and outer ring. You can heal the inner ring people without facing them.

If you see an aggro alert, do not automatically pop Fade. In many cases, the mob will be way over on the other side and the tanks will have plenty of time to pick it up. Also, pay attention to which mob(s) are aggroing you. Tainted Elementals and Vashj target random people, so you can't Fade off of them. You only want to Fade if a Strider or Elite targets you and is in the same general part of the room. Since these enemies only pop every 45-60 seconds each, you should usually have Fade available.

Don't be afraid to shield yourself. I know it doesn't last an entire hit, but it could save your life.

Lastly, has anyone considered using Fear Ward in this fight, at least for the priests in the inner circle on themselves?

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Post by Brulan » Wed Jun 25, 2008 12:57 pm

I know the biggest thing thats help my survivability is watching my timers and knowing where the tanks are located at all times. Naga about to spawn? Find the nearest tank and get ready to hug him if necessary.

I also try not to cast a heal for a couple seconds before and after the naga's spawn. The number one reason you're going to have a naga aggro onto you is because you smacked someone with a heal right as they spawned.

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Post by Paxstris » Wed Jun 25, 2008 1:34 pm

Fear Ward does not help against Strider Fear. I tried it during our second round of attempts, and I still got feared. You just have to put up with it.

For me, when I'm healing on inner right, I keep my ears out for strider/naga warnings from the outter ring dps. If someone from 1 or 2 calls out a something, I have to know how to react to it. If it's a strider, I swing my camera around to find it, and if my net CD is up, I'll net it and dot it. If it's a Naga, I try and get as far away as possible, while watching out for my aggro alert, ready to pop a fade. Most of the time, it's not necessary because one of the inner tanks will intervene me.

Like Lealla said, if there's a Strider up, I like to keep a little closer to the inside of the inner circle so I have distance to dot, without getting feared. The only time I can't do that is if a strider is up, close to me, and a core is going to be thrown to me soon. I'll shout out on vent that I'm not ready and wait for the strider to pass and then say I'm OK to get the core.

A lot of this fight is just listening to vent to see what other people are doing, and make a decision as to whether or not that information is valid for you. If you think that it pertains to you, make a decision as to how to react. That's why it's so important to pay attention on that phase.

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